I see several poorly priced used NI Maschine controller that are really worth nothing since they don't include serial numbers to software. I was disgusted to see how I paid $600 for the Ableton Push mk1 and now see them collecting dust in used cases at Guitar Center in the low $200s.
I started out with a lot of controllers (APC40, Maschine, Push, Kontrol) and I woke up one day to realize they were just joysticks to computer software. I can still turn on my st224, mv8800, rm1x, mc303, etc and get the same predictable behavior and features as the day they were released. The newer ones have code specific to the hardware and are less prone to glitches as once a bug is addressed, there is no further patching that might cause instability. The old ones required prom changes to update the OS. All it takes is a few patches on the OS and everything could break again. The whole pc or mac software tied to controller is precarious to start with and would require dedication to never patch. Entirely dependent on popularity of a certain controller being made in mass quantity to have spare parts available 20 years later too.
Next you have the controllers which hopefully are built solid to last 20 years, but I really don't see that happening if you actually use it a lot. That is one piece of hardware and software to rely on lasting 20 years. Well first it requires a dedicated audio computer that you will not go online with and never patch once you have it in optimal running state. If 2.0 drops and it runs like a dream on the Touch / Studio / Renaissance then whats to stop it from still doing that in 20 years?
I really don't get why people say this.surely if you have a computer that can run the software its no different to any MPC tied to the aspect of running the same OS to stay functional. Living Bate wrote: richie wrote:Any of the MPC product line that requires a computer to operate will never have long term value, as they're tied to the aspect of software support to stay functional
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